Ryan ([info]ryanbrenizer) wrote,
@ 2007-05-11 12:42:00
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Review: 70-200mm f/2.8 VR

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Sample photos taken with this lens

 
With positive reviews comes great responsibility. After my glowing reviews of the 85mm f/1.4 (link) and the 17-55mm f/2.8 (link), I've noticed a number of topics on photography forums that say "OK, which should I get first, the 85mm or the 17-55?" Clearly there's money at stake here (though sadly, none for me.) I bring this up because today's lens is more expensive still -- $1,614 at B&H. I use it and love it, but if I had to choose between this lens and, say, eating ... well, I love to eat.
 
The 70-200 f/2.8 VR lens has an incredibly important place in the Nikon line-up, it's a key lens for professionals, who tend to use primes less and less these days. Unlike the Canon guys, who seem to produce a different sort of 70-200 every month, this lens stands almost alone in Nikon's fast AF-S moderate telephoto range. There's a 200mm prime lens that's twice as fast, twice as heavy, and almost three times as expensive, but that's safely in the "exotic" category. Since it has so little company in the line-up, it's a good thing it's fantastic.
 
That said, when I got this lens I said "man, I'm going to shoot with this EVERY DAY!" and instead I use it once a week or less. Why? Read on.
 
What is it good for? 
There are three things that give this lens its essential character -- its range of focal lengths, its large, constant aperture, and vibration reduction. There's only one other lens that has all three things -- the nearly-identical lens for the Canon mount. Third-party manufacturers make fast telephoto zooms, and the Sigma versions even share silent-wave focusing with the Nikkor, but none have Vibration Reduction, which I find vitally important for a lens of this spec because a) It's long. It magnifies the world before you, which also magnifies camera-shake. Without VR you need very fast shutter speeds to get a consistently sharp image. b) It's very hand-holdable. It doesn't bother me much that the 600mm f/4 doesn't have VR, because you are almost always going to have that puppy strapped to a giant tripod. This lens is made for your shaky hands, so VR lets you use it in much lower light than a non-VR version.
 
Smokey Robinson @ CSHL

 
The lens is long -- on a DX crop, it gets *really* long, extending to the frame-of-view of a 300mm lens. That puts you in places you can't get to with your body -- right in someone's eye from across the room, to the action on a basketball court, or right into a lecturer's face. It also zooms almost 3x, so you can get a body shot and a headshot in quick succession, or cover different aspects of a scene when you aren't allowed to move (a common situation for professional event shooters)
 
The lens is fast, a constant f/2.8, allowing you to stop motion for sports and quick action quite well (though not as well as a fast prime)
 
NYC Rail Jam

 
When you put "long and fast" together, you get a third quality -- incredible depth-of-field control. Fully extended, this lens has an even shallower depth-of-field than the 85mm f/1.4. Not only can you get right in someone's face, you can blur out the guy sitting behind him
 
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The downside of this is that when you want a good portion of the picture in focus, you have to stop down very far, so don't expect to do that in low-light.
 
As you can see, the basic specs alone make it an extraordinary lens. But there's more features that are specific to the model.
 
What's great about the Nikkor
 
1. The VR really works -- they say it's about a three-stop advantage, meaning instead of shooting at 1/250th you can shoot at 1/30th, but it varies a bit from frame to frame. If you can shoot a number of frames of the same scene, the VR can grab at 1/15th or lower. Your hit rate will go up with higher shutter speeds, of course, but in any case it's much better than non-VR versions. That said, the VR II in the new 105mm f/2.8 VR Macro lens does seem to work noticeably better.
 
2. Build quality -- extremely solid. Metal casings, a smooth, large focus ring, internal focus AND zoom so the lens never extends, a number of inuitive switches for focus limiting and VR -- it's got it all. Just remember to switch back any settings changes you make on the switches to a setting your comfortable with, or you may not realize you've turned off your VR until too late.
 
Sadly, the tiny Bokeh Men were unaware that the favorite meal of the giant Long Island Sea Gull is blurry critters

 
3. Lightning-quick focus. This is extremely important for a lens of this spec, which is often used to shoot fast-moving subjects. It's easy to grab, say, a bird in flight. It will focus more quickly than any cheaper Nikon telephoto, which mostly use screw-drives that rely on the torque of the body. On a D2-series camera the difference will be less than on, say, an F80 (which seems to have a little hamster running around as its focus motor), but it's there. On the D40 and D40x, all other fast telephotos won't focus at all (except for the aforementioned $4,000 beast).
 
4. The bokeh is quite good, but the 85mm f/1.4 is still the champ here. The 70-200 renders bokeh similarly to the 17-55 in my experience, although there tends to be more of it, thanks to the shallow depth of field.
 
The Fingers of Summer

 
The Bad, or why doesn't this lens stay in my bag?

From optics to build, this is a fabulous lens, and it's a lot more versatile than the 85mm. What could possibly be wrong with this lens? For me, part of it is a matter of taste -- my philosophy for photojournalism is "get closer." On a DX camera, this has a the frame-of-view of a 105-300mm lens, which is a near-exotic focal length. Telephoto compresses the world together, blurs out the background and tends to make everything simple, pretty eye-candy. Whenever possible, I try to make the 85 my longest focal length and, when appropriate, to get even closer. That won't apply to many people, but it's worth mentioning. On a full-frame camera the focal lengths work better, but you bump harder into the next problem, which is:

Less-than-great close focus: You have to stand at least six feet away from your subject to get focus. Not a problem in most cases, particularly with a DX crop, but if you're shooting at 70mm on a full-frame camera that limit can really trip you up. Sigma makes a macro version that ameliorates this problem, but it doesn't have Vibration Reduction.

Vibration Reduction is inconsistent: The sharp among you might have read the paragraph on taste and said, "why doesn't he just take it and shoot at the shorter end instead of grabbing the 85mm?" Here's why -- I'm usually shooting in poor light, and Vibration Reduction, while great, gets different results from frame to frame. Sometimes it's tack sharp, sometimes it's very blurry. That's not a problem with the Nikkor; it's just how VR works on any lens that has it. A fast lens, though, is entirely consistent. I don't feel comfortable that I'll get most shots sharp on the 70-200 unless I'm firing at 1/80th f/3.2, whereas I feel about the same shooting at 1/100th f/1.4 with the 85mm. At those settings, the 85 is letting in four times the light, a huge difference.

It's big and heavy: I can store this lens in my shoulder-bag, but I can't store it mounted -- I have to switch lenses before using. It only feels balanced to me when I'm using the D200 with the battery grip (which makes it Nikon's biggest camera in its current lineup) I'm in pretty good shape. I can bound up my five-story walk-up without breathing hard, but carrying this lens around all day can leave me aching. The calculus might change a bit for you non-New Yorkers who have motorized vehicles to carry you about, but shooting a long event like a wedding with this thing hanging off your neck all day can wear you down. On the plus side, you might be able to pay for this lens by canceling your gym membership.

A Place at the (Periodic) Table


It's intimidating: I see a noticeably different reaction from subjects when I have this lens on. It's long -- that gives it a vector, and makes sure people know it's a telephoto. They know it's not just pointing at them, but that it's picking up every pore. In portrait sessions this doesn't matter much -- they're there to be photographed, after all, but it can make a difference for general candids. On the other hand, you can stand so far away from people that they might not see you at all.

It's really, really expensive. But you already knew that.

So why do I keep this lens around? Because sometimes you can't help but need telephoto, and for me simply nothing else will do. It's also notable that I took my favorite pictures of 2005 and 2006 with this lens, at opposing ends of its zoom range. I guess zooms are in vogue for a reason.

At the wide end:
At the Met: Unposed candid.

 
At the long end:
Excelsior


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I heart lens reviews
(Anonymous)
2007-05-11 05:06 pm UTC (link)
Gah, it's time to sell the 85mm /1.4 -- and my next photoboard post will be "what do I get first, the 17-55 or the 70-200."

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Re: I heart lens reviews
[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-11 06:14 pm UTC (link)
Haha, small world.

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[info]nakedlove
2007-05-11 05:25 pm UTC (link)
See, this. This is nice to wake up to.

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[info]iaaphoto
2007-05-11 05:40 pm UTC (link)
Good review as usual. Actually, I was looking for lens information online and came across you a couple times through google.

I've been trying to look for a wide fast lens for my cannon, but I'm not sure what stacks up to the 50mm 1.4 I've been using, and is worth buying. Got any advice?

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-11 06:15 pm UTC (link)
Thanks. What's your price range? With a 20D, my first choice for wide and fast would be the 24mm f/1.4. Still wide even with the crop, and it cuts out the less-than-stellar corners.

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[info]iaaphoto
2007-05-11 06:39 pm UTC (link)
The 24mm 1.4 looks good, but I'm not sure where I'd find it for a price I can afford. It's good to keep in mind though, and figure out what I might have to save up for.

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-11 08:19 pm UTC (link)
The 30mm f/1.4 is fast and cheaper, but it's a normal after the crop, not a wide. Works nicely, though -- might be my next review.

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(Anonymous)
2007-05-11 06:17 pm UTC (link)
I agree with this review on almost all counts. It is very high quality, but usually it is not fast enough when you need it indoors. Its big, too. I don't agree that it is ver

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[info]hyper_boy
2007-05-11 07:08 pm UTC (link)
haha, the last 3 lens reviews were exactly what was on my shopping list for lenses when i got the D80, in that order! I think many Nikon shooter are leaning towards a lens package that youve described, its very versatile. :)

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Focus and VR
(Anonymous)
2007-05-11 08:59 pm UTC (link)
On the D200, you must press the shutter half-way in order to use the VR and NOT the AF-ON button.

I'm sure you know this, Ryan, but I just wanted to alert anyone that may be getting this to use on a D200.

To clarify it a little more, here's a quote from Thom Hogan:

"Lose the AF-ON button. VR does not operate unless you partially press the shutter release. Thus, if you use the AF-ON button to acquire focus and then stab at the release, you're probably not giving the VR enough time to do its job fully. You can press the AF-ON button to trigger focus, and then press the shutter release partway to let the VR acquire and stabilize, but some people find this to be awkward."

I also get inconsistent results sometimes with the VR, so I know exactly what you mean. It's not a big problem since most of the shots that come out of this is amazing.

Jimmy Cheng

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Re: Focus and VR
[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-11 09:30 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the addition, Jimmy. I always use the shutter button with VR lenses.

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[info]charlottegeary
2007-05-11 09:02 pm UTC (link)
Ryan, you are so good. Really great stuff here.

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-11 09:31 pm UTC (link)
Thanks so much, Charlotte!

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[info]happydrunkrd
2007-05-12 12:05 am UTC (link)
seems we've got similar equipment. but i definitely would eventually like to add the 85mm f/1.4 to my setup so i can leave my 70-200 at home more often. man that lens is heavy! i've got to bike to work with it in my bag almost every day!

and sometimes f/2.8 isn't anywhere near fast enough!

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-12 02:22 am UTC (link)
Yeah, when you don't have a car that 70-200 can be a liability.

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(Anonymous)
2007-05-15 03:26 pm UTC (link)
Tried carrying the heavy eqp on a backpack ? It really seems to lighten the weight ...
I can walk for miles with my laptop & books; it'd have killed my shoulder putting them on a sling bag

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-15 03:29 pm UTC (link)
Backpacks are great for carrying, but hard to use when actually shooting.

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(Anonymous)
2007-05-12 02:02 am UTC (link)
Another nice review, Ryan. Because of the cons you listed, I ended up getting the Sigma 50-150mm f/2.8. On a DX camera it's roughly 70-200 range, it will focus at around 3ft, is relatively small and lightweight, and it's not quite so intimidating (although with the hood it looks pretty long), and it's less than half the price. And it's nice and sharp with good bokeh. The only real negative is the lack of VR.

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-12 02:21 am UTC (link)
Yeah, on a camera that has built-in VR that one would seem to be a real winner for the cost.

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[info]finn_lily
2007-05-12 06:42 am UTC (link)
Thank you for another good review, Ryan! I have been looking into lenses for a while now, trying to understant that side of camera geek language and I really see how excellent the results look with that one. All the samples you showed had something to them, just beautiful shots! And the depth of field on these, awesome!

Something that bugs me is not understanding what 'bokeh' is... I've come across this on the Finnish photography forum but they're really too technical for me, yet, to understand, so maybe you could explain what it is? I know I'd understand, as I've read your reviews and they all make perfect sense to even a non-native English speaker.

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-12 02:06 pm UTC (link)
Bokeh basically means "out-of-focus," and is commonly used to mean the quality of the out-of-focus rendering, with special attention to points of light. More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokeh

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[info]wickenden
2007-05-12 07:56 am UTC (link)
another facinating review!

d.

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Nice review
(Anonymous)
2007-05-12 04:17 pm UTC (link)
Well, that's my next lens. Nice review of it - balanced and fair. It matches well with the 17-55 for event use. Pretty much all you need for 80 percent of shooting.

Still, I plan on getting a 60mm f/2.8 Micro-Nikkor for my basic Nikkor set instead of a 85mm f/1.4. More versatile as a people and detail lens Im thinking.

- Joe Pennant/Itinerant

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[info]kmdailey
2007-05-12 06:27 pm UTC (link)
you're awesome. period.

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-13 12:39 am UTC (link)
Ha, thanks!

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[info]raygungothic
2007-05-12 08:09 pm UTC (link)
It's really nice to see lens reviews from someone who actually uses these things professionally rather than the usual Internet test-chart brigade. Thanks for taking the time to put these up.

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-13 12:39 am UTC (link)
Thank you; I try to take a different perspective on these.

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(Anonymous)
2007-05-13 11:26 am UTC (link)
After your comment last time I was curious to see what the lens might be and its expense. First of let me say thanks for yet another great review, Nikon should have you on commission. Unfortunately I don't see me buying this lens any time soon but I can see it being added to the must buy list. For the moment I have too many other things to buy, after months of wanting to compare the D200 and the S5, I've decided its the S5 for me seeing as I don't really shoot a lot of actions shots. Of course I need a couple of lenses too, preferably something that will allow me to visit Japan at some point and something that I can put on my back whilst hiking some remote Scottish mountain without questioning my sanity and fitness. That said I still see myself buying it at some point, probably in about 2 years, because knowing me a year from now I'll be wanting to buy the D200, or whatever it has been replaced with by that time. For now though seeing as the van was hit by an uninsured driver everything has to wait, just when I could almost feel my hands around that S5 too. Now I have a new dilemma do I buy the D40x now to satisfy my DSLR buying urges or just wait knowing that I can get the S5 a month sooner, providing life doesn't get in the way again. It's a hard decision I'm not sure I'll use the D40x often enough once the S5 is bought but then I'm also feeling the need for a pick-me-up. Damn that cheap price!
Anyway another great review, you didn't disappoint. I'm already looking forward to the next one.
Steven

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-13 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Thanks Steven! You could also look at the D40, which could satisfy your dSLR urges at an even cheaper price. The resolution gains are not a huge issue in my mind.

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[info]raygungothic
2007-05-17 10:50 am UTC (link)
I'm finding d40 + S5 to be quite a good combination - the S5 when I have my serious hat on, the d40 immensely fun and light enough to keep in my bag full-time. The 40 also has a few advantages more "advanced" bodies lack, such as a very soft/gentle/unbouncy shutter release and the ability to convince obnoxious security guards that you're just another tourist. I wouldn't bother with the 40x as the improvements aren't enough to justify the extra cost.

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[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-17 03:01 pm UTC (link)
I would say the same thing, except it would be annoying for me to have a back-up that couldn't effectively use my favorite lens. I do like the F80 for light use, which is about the same size.

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[info]raygungothic
2007-05-17 04:20 pm UTC (link)
Hmm, you have a good point there. I missed the screwdriver AF generation completely so I tend to forget about that.

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Great review
(Anonymous)
2007-05-14 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Really, pleasant to read, informative and fantastic photos. I wish you were an Olympus user like me so that I could get something out them for my camera!

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Re: Great review
[info]ryanbrenizer
2007-05-14 06:08 pm UTC (link)
Thanks! I accept cameras for testing, haha.

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[info]farmalloc
2007-05-14 06:48 pm UTC (link)
Another great reivew. I am egarly waiting for the reivew of a lenes I don't already have, but you do an great job of explaining the highlights and lowlights for the lenses, some of which I hadn't given as much thought about. These are the things that make great reivews...learning something eventhough you already know about them. I can't imagine the learning involved when there is a sweet new lens.

Are you going to review post processing stuff as well? I would be interested in a day of the life of Ryan. What is your workflow etc.

Also if you care the bird in your shot is a Ring-Billed Gull.

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2008-03-30 10:19 am UTC (link)
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